will335 wrote:Tomas wrote:Says one old hardcore dude to another
Yeah but this is an old Toledo hardcore dude so if you got a problem I have no problem settling up where ever, easy enough.
Your credibility just went through the roof.
will335 wrote:Tomas wrote:Says one old hardcore dude to another
Yeah but this is an old Toledo hardcore dude so if you got a problem I have no problem settling up where ever, easy enough.
Jake wrote:will335 wrote:Tomas wrote:Says one old hardcore dude to another
Yeah but this is an old Toledo hardcore dude so if you got a problem I have no problem settling up where ever, easy enough.
Your credibility just went through the roof.
marcmacd0nald wrote:I wish ScottyG02 would post in this thread.
Steven Woahdick wrote:I don't really care what people think about what I have to say. Just like i don't care what anyone else has to say.
Tomas wrote:Jake wrote:will335 wrote:Tomas wrote:Says one old hardcore dude to another
Yeah but this is an old Toledo hardcore dude so if you got a problem I have no problem settling up where ever, easy enough.
Your credibility just went through the roof.
Agreed. You're a lot cooler in my book cause you're from Toledo and you have no problem moving here. Cool, move here so you can be a jaded old dude from Toledo who moved to Michigan because some "hardcore tourist" likes to say "faggot"
will335 wrote:Back to the original subject. I have been known myself say some racist and sexist things, I feel it's a product of the environment that I grew up in. My Dad was married 4 times and really didn't care for any of them women he was married to and I always lived in very bad neighborhoods and went to inner city schools including Nathan Hale where I was the only white kid in the entire school. So now I'm in my mid 30's and I have two kids 5 and 7. When I'm around my friends I make crude jokes and say stupid things joking around, but I would never say them in front of kids because I would never want my children to say the word "faggot" or "nigger" or "nigga" for that fact. So why do I think it's OK to say this around my friends but not my kids? It's not OK, it's a major character flaw that I'm trying to change and I think that we would all be better off looking at ourselves and start by trying to change ourselves before worrying about everybody else. My daughter has been going to shows with for a couple years, she went and saw Burning Fight the other night, I've tryed to teach her that the punk/hardcore/metal community is a safe place to be yourself and have fun, but if there guys at shows that are doing said stuff at the Metal Frat, then I would have to rethink my position on that. This is my very little insight to the subject maybe it helps some maybe not.
will335 wrote: It's not OK, it's a major character flaw that I'm trying to change and I think that we would all be better off looking at ourselves and start by trying to change ourselves before worrying about everybody else.
will335 wrote:Back to the original subject. I have been known myself say some racist and sexist things, I feel it's a product of the environment that I grew up in. My Dad was married 4 times and really didn't care for any of them women he was married to and I always lived in very bad neighborhoods and went to inner city schools including Nathan Hale where I was the only white kid in the entire school. So now I'm in my mid 30's and I have two kids 5 and 7. When I'm around my friends I make crude jokes and say stupid things joking around, but I would never say them in front of kids because I would never want my children to say the word "faggot" or "nigger" or "nigga" for that fact. So why do I think it's OK to say this around my friends but not my kids? It's not OK, it's a major character flaw that I'm trying to change and I think that we would all be better off looking at ourselves and start by trying to change ourselves before worrying about everybody else. My daughter has been going to shows with for a couple years, she went and saw Burning Fight the other night, I've tryed to teach her that the punk/hardcore/metal community is a safe place to be yourself and have fun, but if there guys at shows that are doing said stuff at the Metal Frat, then I would have to rethink my position on that. This is my very little insight to the subject maybe it helps some maybe not.
Tomas wrote:will335 wrote: It's not OK, it's a major character flaw that I'm trying to change and I think that we would all be better off looking at ourselves and start by trying to change ourselves before worrying about everybody else.
Look man, Rorik talks about you like you're the best thing since sliced bread and I'm sure you probably think I'm some young loud mouth or whatever but this is exactly my point. Me and Jake for instance have been talking about this outside the board and we don't see anything wrong with what we say or how we act, so why should we look inside our selves? We like what we see, we don't see anything wrong. That's all I'm trying to get it. You're stirring up a pot that hasn't and doesn't need to be. For the most part every single person that goes to shows on the regular isn't a sexist dick or a white power nigger saying dude. Why does this even need to be brought up? THAT's my point. IMO, everythings fine. I've never once dealt with anything on ANY level of racism. I'm done with this whole thread because every single one of these people who complain about racism or sexism have either said, say nigga, or jerk off to porn, or have done some sort of "sexist" thing in the past. Obviously we as people shouldn't go around putting our hands where they don't belong and obviously we shouldn't look down on someone for their race but come the fuck on. This is all so stupid.
dhr wrote:Tomas wrote:will335 wrote: It's not OK, it's a major character flaw that I'm trying to change and I think that we would all be better off looking at ourselves and start by trying to change ourselves before worrying about everybody else.
Look man, Rorik talks about you like you're the best thing since sliced bread and I'm sure you probably think I'm some young loud mouth or whatever but this is exactly my point. Me and Jake for instance have been talking about this outside the board and we don't see anything wrong with what we say or how we act, so why should we look inside our selves? We like what we see, we don't see anything wrong. That's all I'm trying to get it. You're stirring up a pot that hasn't and doesn't need to be. For the most part every single person that goes to shows on the regular isn't a sexist dick or a white power nigger saying dude. Why does this even need to be brought up? THAT's my point. IMO, everythings fine. I've never once dealt with anything on ANY level of racism. I'm done with this whole thread because every single one of these people who complain about racism or sexism have either said, say nigga, or jerk off to porn, or have done some sort of "sexist" thing in the past. Obviously we as people shouldn't go around putting our hands where they don't belong and obviously we shouldn't look down on someone for their race but come the fuck on. This is all so stupid.
You could have just posted "I'm an idiot!" instead of wasting time on that long, nonsensical reply.
Timmy Mac wrote:dhr wrote:Tomas wrote:will335 wrote: It's not OK, it's a major character flaw that I'm trying to change and I think that we would all be better off looking at ourselves and start by trying to change ourselves before worrying about everybody else.
Look man, Rorik talks about you like you're the best thing since sliced bread and I'm sure you probably think I'm some young loud mouth or whatever but this is exactly my point. Me and Jake for instance have been talking about this outside the board and we don't see anything wrong with what we say or how we act, so why should we look inside our selves? We like what we see, we don't see anything wrong. That's all I'm trying to get it. You're stirring up a pot that hasn't and doesn't need to be. For the most part every single person that goes to shows on the regular isn't a sexist dick or a white power nigger saying dude. Why does this even need to be brought up? THAT's my point. IMO, everythings fine. I've never once dealt with anything on ANY level of racism. I'm done with this whole thread because every single one of these people who complain about racism or sexism have either said, say nigga, or jerk off to porn, or have done some sort of "sexist" thing in the past. Obviously we as people shouldn't go around putting our hands where they don't belong and obviously we shouldn't look down on someone for their race but come the fuck on. This is all so stupid.
You could have just posted "I'm an idiot!" instead of wasting time on that long, nonsensical reply.
Made enough sense to me. I must be an idiot too. Oh well!
shitty kyle wrote:jesus fucking christ
dhr wrote:We can always just discuss this in person. That would be funny.
Timmy Mac wrote:dhr wrote:We can always just discuss this in person. That would be funny.
What's the fun in that?
dhr wrote:Timmy Mac wrote:dhr wrote:We can always just discuss this in person. That would be funny.
What's the fun in that?
Apologies and awkward utterances. Always fun for SOMEBODY!
Timmy Mac wrote:dhr wrote:Tomas wrote:will335 wrote: It's not OK, it's a major character flaw that I'm trying to change and I think that we would all be better off looking at ourselves and start by trying to change ourselves before worrying about everybody else.
Look man, Rorik talks about you like you're the best thing since sliced bread and I'm sure you probably think I'm some young loud mouth or whatever but this is exactly my point. Me and Jake for instance have been talking about this outside the board and we don't see anything wrong with what we say or how we act, so why should we look inside our selves? We like what we see, we don't see anything wrong. That's all I'm trying to get it. You're stirring up a pot that hasn't and doesn't need to be. For the most part every single person that goes to shows on the regular isn't a sexist dick or a white power nigger saying dude. Why does this even need to be brought up? THAT's my point. IMO, everythings fine. I've never once dealt with anything on ANY level of racism. I'm done with this whole thread because every single one of these people who complain about racism or sexism have either said, say nigga, or jerk off to porn, or have done some sort of "sexist" thing in the past. Obviously we as people shouldn't go around putting our hands where they don't belong and obviously we shouldn't look down on someone for their race but come the fuck on. This is all so stupid.
You could have just posted "I'm an idiot!" instead of wasting time on that long, nonsensical reply.
Made enough sense to me. I must be an idiot too. Oh well!
Tomas wrote:Timmy Mac wrote:dhr wrote:Tomas wrote:will335 wrote: It's not OK, it's a major character flaw that I'm trying to change and I think that we would all be better off looking at ourselves and start by trying to change ourselves before worrying about everybody else.
Look man, Rorik talks about you like you're the best thing since sliced bread and I'm sure you probably think I'm some young loud mouth or whatever but this is exactly my point. Me and Jake for instance have been talking about this outside the board and we don't see anything wrong with what we say or how we act, so why should we look inside our selves? We like what we see, we don't see anything wrong. That's all I'm trying to get it. You're stirring up a pot that hasn't and doesn't need to be. For the most part every single person that goes to shows on the regular isn't a sexist dick or a white power nigger saying dude. Why does this even need to be brought up? THAT's my point. IMO, everythings fine. I've never once dealt with anything on ANY level of racism. I'm done with this whole thread because every single one of these people who complain about racism or sexism have either said, say nigga, or jerk off to porn, or have done some sort of "sexist" thing in the past. Obviously we as people shouldn't go around putting our hands where they don't belong and obviously we shouldn't look down on someone for their race but come the fuck on. This is all so stupid.
You could have just posted "I'm an idiot!" instead of wasting time on that long, nonsensical reply.
Made enough sense to me. I must be an idiot too. Oh well!
You'd think a guy who's trying to change how people feel and act would not want to insult them? Oh well.
dhr wrote:You're not the center of the universe, creampuff. Not everything is about you.
The very last thing I want is for people to change. I love the feeling of superiority.
This thread is full of kids who don't get it.
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